By Mike Fawkes
It was just Thursday night, 6/21/2016, that the Conservative Libertarian, Alex Jones, and staunch Liberal, Cenk Uygur, got into a bit of a scuffle on the Young Turks set at the RNC. Alex Jones claims that The Young Turks invited him onto their show, and then was attacked and harassed by Cenk and The Young Turks. Cenk claims that Alex Jones came uninvited and was ruining The Young Turks' program. So what are the facts? First we'll go to the video of the explanation from both sides, and go through every fact they bring up.
It was just Thursday night, 6/21/2016, that the Conservative Libertarian, Alex Jones, and staunch Liberal, Cenk Uygur, got into a bit of a scuffle on the Young Turks set at the RNC. Alex Jones claims that The Young Turks invited him onto their show, and then was attacked and harassed by Cenk and The Young Turks. Cenk claims that Alex Jones came uninvited and was ruining The Young Turks' program. So what are the facts? First we'll go to the video of the explanation from both sides, and go through every fact they bring up.
At 2:11 on the Alex Jones video, and on 1:29 on the Young Turks video, Cenk claims that Donald Trump is in court papers for rape. At 1:51 in The Young Turks response video Cenk specifies that in court papers Ivana Trump, Donald Trump's first wife, was raped by Donald Trump. This fact he brings up possibly holds some merit. The Daily Beast wrote an article about Ivana Trump being raped by Donald Trump. The based the act of Donald's rape from a book called "Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump" by Harry Hurt III. However, Ivana told CNN:
"I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign. Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible president,"
However, some could argue that Ivana's statement was possibly controlled, due to the fact that The Daily Beast reported that in the Ivana and Donald's divorce filings that there was a gag order placed on Ivana, stating that Ivana can't talk about Donald unless he she receives his permission. But as the current stories goes to show Ivana said she was not raped in "a literal or criminal sense", according to the Independent .
But why was Cenk even talking about Trump's rape allegations from the 1990's? At 1:53 in the Alex Jones video, and at 1:09 in the Young Turks video, Alex Jones holds up a t-shirt of Bill Clinton with the words 'RAPE' underneath the former president's face. Essentially implying that Bill Clinton is a rapist. According to Heavy the women raped or sexually harassed by Bill Clinton are: Juanita Broaddrick, Katheen Willey, Paula Jones, Sandra Allen James, Eileen Wellstone, Christy Zercher, Carolyn Moffet, Helen Dowdy, Becky Brown, and Regina Blakely Hopper. And according to The Hill Hillary Clinton tried to silence Juanita Broaddrick.
Now to the next fact. At 2:25 in the Alex Jones video, and at 1:41 in The Young Turks video, Roger Stone claims that Cenk "assaults [him] all the time but nevers gives [him] a chance to respond." Which I cannot confirm or deny.
Now at 2:36 in the Alex Jones video, and 1:52 in The Young Turks video, Cenk claims that Roger stone admitted to lying about Eliot Spitzer. Now I could not find any article or video of Roger Stone admitting to lying about Eliot Spitzer. The only I could find close to that was an Atlantic article calling him a liar, and a New Yorker article titled 'The Dirty Trickster.'
At 3:08 in the Alex Jones video, and 2:25 in The Young Turks video, Cenk claims that Roger Stone is the biggest liar in media. When you search 'Roger Stone biggest liar in media' you would most likely get a mediamatters.org article. No where in there does it mention he is a liar. However, with any smear story coming from mediamatters.org there could very well be a conflict of interest, due to their close connections with the White House, according to The Daily Caller.
Although it is incoherent in the Alex Jones video at around 2:53 in The Young Turks video Alex make the claim that The Young Turks receive funding from the Saudis. I could not find anything concerninng funding from Saudi Arabia to The Young Turks, but it seems Alex's demeanor was facetious.
Soon after Jones made the allegation Cenk made the comment that The Young Turks talk frequently of Saudi Arabia. When looking through all the video uploaded to YouTube by The Young Turks in the past three months only one video was found concerning Saudi Arabia.
After the commotion Alex Jones claimed that somebody spit in his face. Even infowars reporter Kit Daniels claimed that he was pushed and spat on (see 1:21 on Alex Jones response video). In the original footage you can't tell if he was spat on or not. But in a video uploaded by the New American media it is very clear the Jimmy Dore spat on Alex Jones, according to Breitbart.
"I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald. The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised three children that we love and are very proud of. I have nothing but fondness for Donald and wish him the best of luck on his campaign. Incidentally, I think he would make an incredible president,"
However, some could argue that Ivana's statement was possibly controlled, due to the fact that The Daily Beast reported that in the Ivana and Donald's divorce filings that there was a gag order placed on Ivana, stating that Ivana can't talk about Donald unless he she receives his permission. But as the current stories goes to show Ivana said she was not raped in "a literal or criminal sense", according to the Independent .
But why was Cenk even talking about Trump's rape allegations from the 1990's? At 1:53 in the Alex Jones video, and at 1:09 in the Young Turks video, Alex Jones holds up a t-shirt of Bill Clinton with the words 'RAPE' underneath the former president's face. Essentially implying that Bill Clinton is a rapist. According to Heavy the women raped or sexually harassed by Bill Clinton are: Juanita Broaddrick, Katheen Willey, Paula Jones, Sandra Allen James, Eileen Wellstone, Christy Zercher, Carolyn Moffet, Helen Dowdy, Becky Brown, and Regina Blakely Hopper. And according to The Hill Hillary Clinton tried to silence Juanita Broaddrick.
Now to the next fact. At 2:25 in the Alex Jones video, and at 1:41 in The Young Turks video, Roger Stone claims that Cenk "assaults [him] all the time but nevers gives [him] a chance to respond." Which I cannot confirm or deny.
Now at 2:36 in the Alex Jones video, and 1:52 in The Young Turks video, Cenk claims that Roger stone admitted to lying about Eliot Spitzer. Now I could not find any article or video of Roger Stone admitting to lying about Eliot Spitzer. The only I could find close to that was an Atlantic article calling him a liar, and a New Yorker article titled 'The Dirty Trickster.'
At 3:08 in the Alex Jones video, and 2:25 in The Young Turks video, Cenk claims that Roger Stone is the biggest liar in media. When you search 'Roger Stone biggest liar in media' you would most likely get a mediamatters.org article. No where in there does it mention he is a liar. However, with any smear story coming from mediamatters.org there could very well be a conflict of interest, due to their close connections with the White House, according to The Daily Caller.
Although it is incoherent in the Alex Jones video at around 2:53 in The Young Turks video Alex make the claim that The Young Turks receive funding from the Saudis. I could not find anything concerninng funding from Saudi Arabia to The Young Turks, but it seems Alex's demeanor was facetious.
Soon after Jones made the allegation Cenk made the comment that The Young Turks talk frequently of Saudi Arabia. When looking through all the video uploaded to YouTube by The Young Turks in the past three months only one video was found concerning Saudi Arabia.
After the commotion Alex Jones claimed that somebody spit in his face. Even infowars reporter Kit Daniels claimed that he was pushed and spat on (see 1:21 on Alex Jones response video). In the original footage you can't tell if he was spat on or not. But in a video uploaded by the New American media it is very clear the Jimmy Dore spat on Alex Jones, according to Breitbart.
Next in the Alex Jones response video, Alex explains that he was asked to go up onto the stage for an interview with The Young Turks, The Young Turks Have denied this. But I cannot confirm or deny if Alex was asked to go up there. It could've a troll at the RNC trying to stir up controversy for the fun of it.
The rest of response videos basically just include personal attacks and the hosts bragging about their ratings. Which is next on the chopping block.
THE NUMBERS: CENK UYGUR VS. ALEX JONES
Both hosts claim they have massive audiences and need each other on their shows to have ratings. But what the real numbers?
If you enter The Young Turks and Infowars into Google Trends you'll get a graph that looks like this:
The rest of response videos basically just include personal attacks and the hosts bragging about their ratings. Which is next on the chopping block.
THE NUMBERS: CENK UYGUR VS. ALEX JONES
Both hosts claim they have massive audiences and need each other on their shows to have ratings. But what the real numbers?
If you enter The Young Turks and Infowars into Google Trends you'll get a graph that looks like this:
(Blue representing The Young Turks and red representing infowars)
And if you compare the host's names you get this graph:
And if you compare the host's names you get this graph:
(again blue = Cenk, red = Alex Jones)
But these charts are purely out of how much those terms are searched for on Google. But let's look at how many views their sites recieve. If type in 'tytnetwork.com' in to quantcast.com you get a graph that looks like this:
But these charts are purely out of how much those terms are searched for on Google. But let's look at how many views their sites recieve. If type in 'tytnetwork.com' in to quantcast.com you get a graph that looks like this:
And if you enter 'infowars.com' into quantcast.com you get a chart that looks like this:
Between these two Quantcast charts, infowars.com has 7,053,300 more unique website views than The Young Turks' website. But what about their YouTube numbers?
If you go to statsheep.com and compare the two channels you'll find a comparison chart that looks like this:
If you go to statsheep.com and compare the two channels you'll find a comparison chart that looks like this:
And a differences chart like this:
In Conclusion these are just the facts I have found. I do not expect and do not want this to be the 'end all be all,' that's why I encourage whoever is reading this to do your own research and come up with your own conclusions.
UPDATE: Infowars have released three new videos discussing their views on the Cenk and Jones situation.
UPDATE: Infowars have released three new videos discussing their views on the Cenk and Jones situation.
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